{"id":272628,"date":"2025-04-11T14:24:22","date_gmt":"2025-04-11T18:24:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/xtramagazine.com\/?p=272628"},"modified":"2025-04-11T15:26:09","modified_gmt":"2025-04-11T19:26:09","slug":"countess-luann-on-cabaret-superstardom-kenya-moore-and-life-after-the-real-housewives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xtramagazine.com\/culture\/countess-luann-on-cabaret-superstardom-kenya-moore-and-life-after-the-real-housewives-272628","title":{"rendered":"Countess Luann on cabaret superstardom, Kenya Moore and life after \u2018The Real Housewives\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"is-style-article-kik\">\u201cElegance is learned, my friends,\u201d and the Countess\u2019s class is in session<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">In March 2008, Bravo fans met Countess Luann de Lesseps for the very first time on the series premiere of <em>The Real Housewives of New York City <\/em>(<em>RHONY<\/em>). Then the wife of French Count Alexandre de Lesseps and rocking a capital A in \u201cLuAnn,\u201d the former nurse and Italian TV star from Connecticut was known for her obsession with class and elegance. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@andy.cohens.bussy\/video\/7370095241254276385\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">One of her most notable scenes<\/a> in the earliest scenes of the show was correcting her co-star, Bethenny Frankel, after introducing her to her driver by her first name. \u201cIt\u2019s Mrs. de Lesseps,\u201d she instructed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If that Countess LuAnn could see Luann the cabaret star now, what would she say?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In a career pivot that has made her one of the most successful and iconic alumni of the <em>Real Housewives <\/em>franchise, de Lesseps has fully embraced the world of cabaret. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.countessluann.com\/cabaret-tour-dates\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.countessluann.com\/cabaret-tour-dates\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">She\u2019s currently on a greatest hits tour, with multiple stops at theatres across Canada<\/a>. Though she first showed off her love of music as early as <em>RHONY<\/em> Season 3, recording perhaps the most iconic <em>Real Housewives<\/em> song of all time, \u201cMoney Can\u2019t Buy You Class,\u201d her cabaret life represents a whole new level. She may be the same Lu that fans first met 17 years ago, but she\u2019s been through many acts since then\u2014including marriage, a mug shot and more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ahead of her stops in Vancouver (April 11) and Calgary (April 14), <em>Xtra<\/em> talked with Countess Luann about learning elegance, her upcoming check-in at Bravo\u2019s <em>Love Hotel<\/em> and her secret to a lasting post-<em>Housewives<\/em> career.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Countess Luann - Money Can&#039;t Buy You Class\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/kEDvlSAMhQU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>You\u2019re on tour right now\u2014I\u2019ll be seeing you in L.A. at the end of the month, but you have Canadian dates on the schedule first. How\u2019s the tour been so far?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s been great. I toured first in London, Ireland and Scotland to packed houses, which was incredible. Tilda Swinton <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/countessluann\/p\/DGobU4YyIcb\/?img_index=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">introduced me<\/a> to the stage in London, which was mind-blowing. I met her last year. She <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wmagazine.com\/culture\/tilda-swinton-luann-de-lesseps-cabaret-show-london#:~:text=She%20sported%20the%20same%20business,%E2%80%9Ccouldn&#039;t%20talk.%E2%80%9D\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">came to my show<\/a> and invited me to Scotland and then we became friends. I didn\u2019t even know she was coming. She sent me flowers and said, \u201cI\u2019m gutted that I can\u2019t come, darling.\u201d And then she\u2019s in my dressing room with her whole family. It was crazy. And then she goes on to introduce me to the stage of the Adelphi Theatre in London \u2026 it was just an incredible experience.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m loving this tour, because it really is greatest hits. Normally I do a video for \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bbcZM28z_uQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Feelin\u2019 Jovani<\/a>,\u201d and this time around, I\u2019m performing it. And \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=oh1WRlv_hYc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Viva La Diva<\/a>,\u201d which I haven\u2019t really done in my shows! I\u2019m hand-picking the songs that I really love, that I have stories for. And that\u2019s what cabaret is all about. It\u2019s a personal story.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>You were also in Montreal recently, and I know both of your parents are French-Canadian. Does that make it a little bit extra special to be up in Canada?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Oh, for sure. I had a clairvoyant who said, \u201cYou know your father\u2019s here with you on stage. You know that, right?\u201d And I said, \u201cYes, I do know that,\u201d because my father passed away over 20 years ago. So it\u2019s very special for me to perform on Canadian soil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>While we\u2019re talking about Canada, you were the first Real Housewife to guest-judge on <\/strong><strong><em>Canada\u2019s Drag Race<\/em><\/strong><strong>. I loved <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/xtramagazine.com\/culture\/canadas-drag-race-season-4-episode-7-recap-261496\"><strong>your episode<\/strong><\/a><strong>\u2014Season 4, Episode 7. What was that experience like for you? Does anything stand out in your memory of it?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>It was great. Those queens, they work so hard. I was so impressed that they make their own clothes, they have to learn the dances, do all the makeup. I mean, there\u2019s so much that goes into <em>Drag Race<\/em> that I really give them kudos for all the work they do, for that one chance to win. I love my queens. I had a great time working with Brad Goreski and the team on the show.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>In that episode, you gave a great critique to one of the competitors, Kiki Coe, when she dropped a hat during the Rusical. You talked about the time that you had been <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/pagesix.com\/2023\/02\/18\/luann-de-lesseps-confirms-fan-threw-up-on-her-at-cabaret-show\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>puked<\/strong><\/a><strong> on, and you brushed it off with a joke and moved on. I thought that was such a great encapsulation of your approach to not only cabaret, but life. You just take the hit and keep moving.<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, like the lyric in \u201cChic C\u2019est La Vie\u201d: \u201cThe little things can take you down\/ So it\u2019s best to brush them off.\u201d You know, when I started \u201cMoney Can\u2019t Buy You Class,\u201d I met a producer, and he goes, \u201cWell, what do you want to sing about?\u201d I go, \u201cI\u2019m not quite sure, but I just wrote a book.\u201d So I showed him <em>Class with the Countess: How to Live with Elegance and Flair<\/em>, and he just kept on flipping pages, going, \u201cElegance is learned, my friend.\u201d So that\u2019s how \u201cMoney Can\u2019t Buy You Class\u201d came along. He just kept on pulling lines out of my book. My book is kind of my life. It\u2019s autobiographical meets tips and advice on how to live with elegance and flair.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Because <em>I<\/em> had to learn. My parents are Canadian. I\u2019m one of seven children. You know, the Canadians have a lot of kids. I grew up in a small town. So I had to learn how to be elegant. And that\u2019s why I talk about that in the book, and I talk about it in my music. I didn\u2019t know a lot, and then life teaches you lessons. I like to grab on to those lessons. I like to talk about them. I include them in my music and my songs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Countess Luann - Chic, C&#039;est La Vie (Official Video)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/4rgzBdOpDt8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>You\u2019ve lived a lot of acts in your life, and the next act is <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ecyZpG3xNO4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><em>Love Hotel<\/em><\/strong><\/a><strong>, which is premiering on Bravo on April 27. What can fans expect going into this?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, listen, it\u2019s the first dating show for the network. They called me up and they said, \u201cHey, we\u2019re going to find you some guys, send you away for three weeks, and we\u2019re going to pay you.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cYeah, baby! I\u2019m in!\u201d I\u2019ve been single for a while\u2014and we\u2019re not going to make this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@aliceinbravoland\/video\/7202395427784641834\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">about Tom<\/a>, because it\u2019s not\u2014but I\u2019ve been single for a while. So I was very excited about the prospect of having men thrown at me, because I do love that! Whether it\u2019s Tom, Harry or a pirate, I do love my boys.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Shannon Beador is on it with Gizelle Bryant and Ashley Darby from <em>Potomac<\/em>. The drama\u2019s more between us and the men than between the women, which is a nice change from <em>Housewives<\/em> drama. So I\u2019m excited for the fans to see this different relationship that we have. We\u2019ve got each other\u2019s backs. I think people are going to love it. It\u2019s a beautiful location, and the guys are really, I was stunned, they found us some really good guys. Good-looking, smart, successful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>It\u2019s hard to find those these days.<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Exactly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>This is your third return, post-<\/strong><strong><em>Housewives<\/em><\/strong><strong>, to the Bravo world. You did <\/strong><strong><em>Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip: RHONY Legacy<\/em><\/strong><strong>, you did <\/strong><strong><em>Luann &amp; Sonja: Welcome to Crappie Lake<\/em><\/strong><strong> and now this. How is it for you to make these smaller returns in specialized shows versus coming back to <\/strong><strong><em>Housewives<\/em><\/strong><strong> proper?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I did the <em>Housewives<\/em> for a long time. I gave people my life for many years, and now it\u2019s really fun doing spinoffs that are not about my personal life \u2026 to the extent of the <em>Housewives<\/em>, where it\u2019s like four months of filming and they\u2019re in your life. <em>Crappie Lake <\/em>was so great. We got into the small town of Benton to help improve after COVID, and we did a lot of great work there. \u2026 They made their motel bigger, they\u2019re making more money. They have a lot more tourists there now. I\u2019m proud of the work that we did there. The <em>Ultimate Girls Trips<\/em> are always fun. I think they should send the <em>Real Housewives of New York City<\/em> OGs around the world. Next stop: <em>Below Deck<\/em>!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><em>Real Housewives<\/em><\/strong><strong> has evolved a lot since you first started. As one of the first to join the franchise, now as an alumna of it, what do you think about the state of <\/strong><strong><em>Real Housewives<\/em><\/strong><strong> in 2025?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I just think that, unless it\u2019s a tight-knit group of Housewives which have old relationships, I think it\u2019s harder for them to survive because people want to follow <em>you<\/em>. They want to follow your story, no matter how long it is. The franchises that do really well are where the friends are really connected and have a history together. I think it\u2019s harder for the new franchises, because there\u2019s really not that history. You can feel it, that they\u2019re not really friends. So I think that\u2019s where the problems occur. Changing up a whole new cast, I think, is kind of an interesting idea. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn\u2019t. Like I said, the casts that will endure are the ones that really have true friendships, that go way back. And I think that\u2019s why <em>New York<\/em> worked so well, because we did have these old friendships. We knew where all the skeletons were buried and we knew a lot about each other.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Speaking of a Housewife you\u2019ve encountered in your time, you and <\/strong><strong><em>Real Housewives of Atlanta<\/em><\/strong><strong> star Kenya Moore got to know each other when you were on the first <\/strong><strong><em>Ultimate Girls Trip<\/em><\/strong><strong> together. I\u2019m not sure if you\u2019ve kept up at all with <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/2025\/tv\/news\/real-housewives-of-atlanta-kenya-moore-explicit-brit-eady-photos-1236360353\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>what\u2019s been happening with her<\/strong><\/a><strong> on <\/strong><strong><em>Atlanta<\/em><\/strong><strong>?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ve got so much going on in terms of new TV shows and cabaret and all that. I heard rumblings, but I don\u2019t even really know the story. What happened with Kenya?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>She had a situation with another Housewife that involved\u2014<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>The photo?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>The photos, yeah. [Editor\u2019s note: After an argument with her fellow Housewife Brit Eady, Moore revealed sexually explicit images of Eady at an on-camera event. The incident resulted in Moore\u2019s suspension from the show.] So her last episode just aired Sunday.<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Right, right. So it didn\u2019t pan out great for her, did it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Unfortunately not. Which is a bummer, obviously, because she&#8217;s such a legend.<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah. \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=gK4dU5i1gnY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gone with the Wind Fabulous<\/a>.\u201d I do think she\u2019s great. I think that it\u2019s very hard not to step in it these days, and, you know, I do think it was a little excessive. There\u2019s always that moment where one has to consider: Is this a crossing-the-line moment or not?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>You have parlayed your success on <\/strong><strong><em>Real Housewives<\/em><\/strong><strong> to such great things. I keep thinking about <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@mighty_hoopla\/video\/7375559193564089633\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>that clip of you at the Mighty Hoopla festival<\/strong><\/a><strong> in London, where you\u2019re walking out to a huge festival crowd. If you could show that clip to the Countess Luann who started on <\/strong><strong><em>Housewives<\/em><\/strong><strong> in the late 2000s, what do you think she would make of that? What would she say?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I would say, \u201cOh, my god, is that me? Is that really me?\u201d I look at myself right now, when I came out to my London show with a packed house in the Adelphi Theatre. It\u2019s epic. I\u2019m just blown away by what I\u2019ve been able to do with my cabaret. And, you know, I did it with my heart. If you live with your heart and you do things you love, it\u2019s really hard to go wrong. I took a big chance doing cabaret when I did it on the show. My first show was filmed, so no pressure there! But, you know, It\u2019s sink or swim.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I take chances. I try to live without fear, because fear is our biggest enemy. I talk about this in my cabaret show to my fans, because I want them to know that. Be fearless. Jump on the train when the doors open. Don\u2019t be afraid to take a chance. People need to hear that, because there\u2019s so much that goes into it. Like, \u201cMy god, should I do it? Should I not do it?\u201d There\u2019s a lot of hesitation. Listen, I got married to the Count after two weeks of knowing him. I fell madly in love, and I have two beautiful children from that marriage. And even though it didn\u2019t work out, it <em>did<\/em> work out. Like they say, \u201cBetter to have loved than not have loved at all.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Why do you think it\u2019s relatively rare for Housewives to build careers after they leave <\/strong><strong><em>Housewives<\/em><\/strong><strong> at the level of something like yours in cabaret? What was your secret to making it work?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>My passion has always been entertainment. I used to work for Italian television before I even met the Count. I was an Italian TV star in Milan. I think it&#8217;s putting yourself in a place where you actually love what you do. For me, I always wanted to be a model, and then I loved television. And now I love reality television. I didn\u2019t know what reality was in 2007 when we started the show. We had no idea how popular it would become. We got paid $10,000 for the entire first season.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You know, how I started cabaret was when one of my best friends, who I\u2019ve known for 30 years, said, \u201cLu, you love to sing for your friends. You love to tell jokes, and you love to entertain. You\u2019re a cabaret performer.\u201d And I was like, \u201cOh, okay!\u201d Then I got married, and that didn\u2019t work out great. I had many streets to cross before I got to the cabaret stage, but it was always in the back of my mind because I am an entertainer; that\u2019s what I like to do. 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